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Meeting about military participation in Bray Airshow July 21, 2019

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1. EWI - July 21, 2019

Great to see this happening; hopefully some commentary on the reality of war armamemts makes it into the national consciousness (or even to Bray on the weekend). Good luck with publicity; the local rag (the Bray People) is an Indo Group publication.

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Joe - July 21, 2019

Agreed. Great to see this happening. Good luck with it.

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2. yourcousin - July 21, 2019

So which 2019 groups are being protested? The Jordanians? Serious question.

https://brayairdisplay.com/in-the-air/

I’d also be curious about “Trade Unionists Against War Shows”, as a cursory glance (ten minute google search) doesn’t bring up a social media footprint.

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WorldbyStorm - July 21, 2019

And there’s a Sukhoi 31 there too – which despite its looks is 1992 onwards vintage and testament to a very long rooted Soviet, later Russian, aerospace technological and arms sector. A fine craft.

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Joe - July 22, 2019

A fine craft? Ah come on, wbs. You cannot be serious. They are all, made by whomever, disgusting things.

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yourcousin - July 22, 2019

So is the protest directed at the historical military aircraft? Or is there modern military present? Again serious question.

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WorldbyStorm - July 22, 2019

Well it is an acrobatic trainer so no ostensible warlike capability above and beyond any aircraft really before it is fitted with weapons – but that’s a key distinction isn’t it? There’s a deeper argument about defense and offensive capabilities of course.

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WorldbyStorm - July 22, 2019

To be clear that’s addressed to Joes point

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Michael Carley - July 22, 2019
WorldbyStorm - July 22, 2019

I like that article – I’m not a pacifist but I feel his pain, and enjoyment

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Joe - July 22, 2019

To wbs. Ah ok. Planes for learning how to fly as opposed to planes with weapons for learning how to kill. Except of course, that the killers have to learn how to fly first and then how to use the weapons to kill. But I get it, I think, people can be genuinely interested in the mechanics and magic of these machines without being in favour of their use as weapons of destruction.
To yc. Serious questions. Surely the poster says what it says. It’s not a protest, it’s a public meeting. As it says, “Warplanes that kill other people’s kids are not fun”. I know no more than what’s on the poster but my guess is that “Trade unionists Against Warshows” have no online presence because all they are are a bunch of folks who decided to organise this meeting to get people to think about this airshow and whether it’s all good, innocent fun. Folks who are members of trade unions, presumably.
I say fair play to them and good luck with the meeting and God’s blessing on the work. And muck the begrudgers and the nitpickers and the tangentialists.

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WorldbyStorm - July 22, 2019

I’m certainly not in favor of weapons of destruction and yet I think a state has a right to equip itself with a defensive capability – but it’s not the latter that interests me. When I see a fast jet it isn’t the destructive power that I like – it’s the engineering or design – the British V bombers etc were remarkable aircraft because they were remarkable aircraft not because some carried atom bombs – I think we ate on the same page on this pretty much. 🙂

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yourcousin - July 23, 2019

Well Joe, I’m going to assume the lion’s share of said muck is meant for me.

All fair I suppose and truthfully not something I’m losing sleep over.

Long may you keep a ecumenical spirit.

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Joe - July 23, 2019

“I’m going to assume the lion’s share of said muck is meant for me.”
In truth it was, yc. I just thought you were trying to rise a row for no good reason.

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yourcousin - July 23, 2019

Like I said Joe, I was trying to understand who, what, and why. That being said, it’s your island you can do as you please.

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EWI - July 22, 2019

So is the protest directed at the historical military aircraft? Or is there modern military present? Again serious question.

Historical aircraft owned by museums or individuals are one thing. Having a promotional event for militarism in the present day is something else entirely (and has a long pedigree of nefarious use as propaganda).

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WorldbyStorm - July 22, 2019

In fairness it’s pretty vanilla this year

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3. roddy - July 21, 2019

Up here we have to put up with this shite all the time and when we object we are labelled “sectarian”.

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