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Talking about your ULA… January 24, 2012

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Irish Politics, The Left.
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In the profile of the Independents in the Irish Times by Harry McGee recently there were a few words devoted to the ULA.

The ULA is a strange concoction – an alliance working within an alliance. There were expectations that People Before Profit and the Socialist Party would merge soon after the election. But progress has been slow and the ULA has not had the impact or cohesion that similar small left-wing political parties like the Workers’ Party had in the past. Part of the reason was that the ULA lacked the structure of a party, or indeed the detailed policy platform.

From a sympathetic position it is difficult to argue with this analysis. It has now been almost a year since the election, but of course the ULA existed prior to that election, so in truth it has had been a discrete element in the political mix for quite some time. Yet both at national level in representative institutions and in campaigns it is more marked by its absence as a unitary body.

The most recent news of the postponement of the ULA conference in February, when only recently announced that it was taking place, merely reinforces this sense of absence. It’s not that anyone expected it not to be difficult to form a new formation from previously existing, and often hostile and competitive parties, but to paraphrase a line from West Wing, ‘it should be just a little bit easier’.

This is a serious issue which some would say needs to be addressed. Because either individually, as the components – SP and PBP/SWP and Seamus Healy, or collectively there hasn’t been the sense that it is operating as a unit. It’s not simply cohesion, the ULA could remain as a de facto electoral alliance indefinitely – I suspect – and still be effective [though whether the balance between those who won’t leave it for fear of being seen as destructive as against those for whom the status quo is just perfect and negates the need to be any more constructive can be maintained for any great length of time is an interesting question], but a sense that there’s less common direction than might have been expected. None of which is to criticise the hard and continuous work of those in it or to suggest there’s something intrinsically wrong with it either as a concept or an actuality. McGee continues:

There were also rumours – wholly dismissed by them – that its two strongest personalities, Higgins and Richard Boyd Barrett, did not get on. More recently, its five TDs have been assigned portfolios and it has begun to produce joint policy papers, notably in the run-up to the budget. But it has not set the world alight. There were expectations of a more informal left-wing sub-group coming together for strategic purposes, that would include the ULA, Thomas Pringle and John Halligan. But that has yet to happen.

In a way though all this was inevitable. Anyone with any knowledge of the Irish further left will be aware of the difficult histories that sit behind the ULA. The fact it exists, even in its current form, is an achievement in itself. Five left wing TDs, moreover five whose backgrounds can broadly be regarded as being in the Trotskyist tradition, being elected in this state is a remarkable turn around.

But it’s far from sufficient, and they could prove as ephemeral as other formations have done in the past. One needs only to look at the individual constituencies to see how post election 201? [for we known not the year nor the month] those numbers could be cut and cut again.

So yes, those histories influence the present. But let’s try to park them for the moment and consider a few basic approaches that could be taken even without a further degree of actual cohesion.

There’s no cause for retrospective wailing and gnashing of teeth, but a more cohesive image is of importance, as the recent by-election demonstrates. It’s not that Ruth Coppinger would have been a shoe-in if the ULA had more presence nationally or even locally. Given the constituency she was standing in she probably had as good a chance as anyone from the SP, or the ULA, with Higgins and the SPs high profile. But an ULA with greater presence might have been sufficient to garner extra and unexpected votes from people who saw that she represented both the attractive strand of Joe Higgins style politics, but also a growing national force [it’s not of course that Higgins doesn’t represent the latter, but his vote, like Gregory’s and other left Independents – in their specific constituencies – is often as much about the man as much as his politics]. And strategically that’s a seat that the SP and the ULA must examine carefully for the future.

To some extent the ULA is a victim of its position in national politics. It is squirreled away within the Technical Group. It doesn’t take much to see that five within sixteen, particularly when among the sixteen there tend to be… somewhat flamboyant characters…is problematic, not least when the five seem to plough their own furrow much of the time. Indeed it is here that the Oireachtas approach seems particularly problematic.

Why don’t the five ULA TDs sit together more often? Why is more not made of them as a bloc? These aren’t necessarily determining issues but again visuals matter, particularly in a Dáil where SF has carved out a real presence for itself.

There’s the issue of simplification… as was put to me it’s tough enough to explain about the the Technical Group without going into the detail of the ULA – ‘Well it’s made up of the SP, the WUAG, People Before Profit, though Richard Boyd Barret is from the SWP and Joan Collins is independent of the two larger groups and no, not everyone on the further left is in them’. The ULA should be the short hand and the backgrounds irrelevant, at least in the Oireachtas itself. And perhaps outside it.

Simply put everything any of the constituent elements of the ULA put out, every platform they sit on,every campaign they are a part of, every speech they make, should be badged with the ULA in some form or fashion. Are there competing campaigns? Well, so be it. But each should have an ULA identifier on them somewhere. Different protests? The ULA should have a defined presence. And so on. This sounds like duplication? Perhaps that’s the price of not having a unitary party.

I was long fond of the Scottish Socialist Party approach of platforms within a larger unit – though the later history of that formation is not one any of us with inclinations towards the further left will draw much comfort from, and no one, I imagine, expects the constituent elements to discard their specific identities, even were that possible.

But even if all this were purely tactical, and the ULA remains an alliance rather than an unitary body, it is absolutely necessary that for the moment it takes poll position as the expression of that group of five further left TDs, those further left councillors and as, or perhaps more, importantly, further left activity in campaigns, on streets and so on. The balance unfortunately appears to have been tipping away from that towards individual components and ‘their’ campaigns. Time to redress that balance.

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1. Admin - January 24, 2012

One of the big problems with the ULA is their inability to take on the national question. Given the differences between the SP and SWP I’m not surprised they seem to have an agreement, “Don’t mention the national question”. But is it principled politics?

Anyway, on the national question, socialism and where things are at, people might be interested in a big interview I did recently with Gerry Ruddy. It’s at: http://theirishrevolution.wordpress.com/2012/01/24/interview-with-veteran-socialist-republican-gerry-ruddy/

Phil
http://theirishrevolution.wordpress.com/

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Mark P - January 24, 2012

A strange interview to present at the end of that contribution, Phil, given that in it Gerry himself seems to advocate avoiding an emphasis on the national question.

As for the ULA, it has already discussed the question of the North at is first national forum and discussion on the subject will undoubtedly continue. There are disagreements between the Socialist Party and the SWP on various issues in the North, some of which are important, but in terms of broad principles, the SWP has over the years moved to a position that is reasonably close to that of the SP.

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2. Phil - January 24, 2012

A stronger collective presence would do the ULA the world of good, and perhaps a small rebranding – just plain “United Left”?

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3. tomasoflatharta - January 24, 2012

Very fair and useful article WBS – readers might be interested in Tommy McKearney’s views on the United Left Alliance and other related issues :“Be Patient and Never Give up the Struggle” http://tomasoflatharta.com/2012/01/23/be-patient-and-never-give-up-the-struggle-an-interview-with-tommy-mckearney/

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4. LeftAtTheCross - January 24, 2012

This statement on the SP website last week:

“Moving to establish a party without the actual involvement of significant numbers of ordinary working class people, would lead to it becoming an irrelevant political sect. The ULA is not the new party, nor is it likely to just become the new party at some future date.

The ULA is an alliance that fights on issues, outlines a left and socialist alternative and crucially popularises the idea of a new party. A new party will most likely come from the likes of the ULA combining with community and workers campaigns and struggles.

The Household Tax campaign can involve thousands of people in political activity up and down the country, creating the potential basis for a new party. ULA members should get fully involved in this struggle.”

http://www.socialistparty.net/comment/854-what-next-for-the-united-left-alliance

I can’t help but interpret that as a statement of hedged bets, i.e. the ULA served an leectoral purpose but the time isn’t right to consolidate it beyond that, but this new opportunity to build support on the back of the household tax campaign offers better opportunities now.

But why not do both simultaneously?

Is opportunism just part of the DNA?

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FergusD - January 24, 2012

Why would that strategy be judged opportunism? At least in the sense that it is used as a term of opprobium. They aren’t changing their prositions in an unprincipled way to gather support – which is what I would call opportunism, but rather trying to gauge how they can grow and develop into a mass party as part of wider political activity. seems fine to me. Probably the only way a far left party can grow.

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Mark P - January 24, 2012

The use of the term baffled me too.

The Socialist Party is in favour of strengthening and consolidating the ULA, by the way. It’s just not in favour of turning it into a party while it consists of the Socialist Party, the SWP and a couple of hundred other activists.

As for the household charge campaign, that represents an opportunity to encourage large numbers of working class activists to step forward and fight in a situation where the union bureaucracies are still doing everything they can to enforce passivity in the face of the crisis and an assault on working class living standards. There are other forms of struggle, like widespread industrial action, which we would prefer to see, but the household / water / septic tank tax is something the forces of the left can push forward under its own steam. And, amongst other things, in so doing strengthen the basis for pushing on to a new party.

As an aside, I note that Sinn Fein, which has adopted the traditional Lab/DL approach of “don’t fight, vote for us instead”, has sent activists to at least some of the large anti-water tax meetings to scaremonger and try to undermine people’s resolve. There’s nothing like a real struggle to make some real lines clear.

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revolutionaryprogramme - January 24, 2012

The problem with the SP schema of waiting until they have judged that the time is right to create a party is that the current structure gives the independents NO say whatsoever about the policy statements and political initiatives taken by the ULA – an inherently undemocratic arrangement.

The SP do seem to recognise this is a problem as they are suggesting that independents have a greater say in the alliance by being allowed to elect reps to the national steering committee.

I voted for a motion to this effect moved by the SP at the last Cork branch meeting as it was preferrable to the SWP’s less democratic alternative of having SP & SWP members participate in the election of these independent reps.

The SP & SWP members have their party structures to influence and direct their members on the steering committee. But how will this work for the independents?

Will the SP and SWP support, or at least allow, the creation of democratic structures within the ULA between the independent members so that the independent members on the steering committee can properly represent their constituency?

If we indepenents are to be equal partners in the alliance, as having reps on the steering committee would imply, then we would for instance need the right to caucus and have procedures for the recall of our reps, have our own communication channels and discussion lists for this purpose etc. Indeed whatever organisational structures we democratically decided among ourselves were right and necessary.

Given their support for having independent reps on the steering committee one would presume that the SP supports all this which flows logically from that position. Any comments on this from the SPers here?

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LeftAtTheCross - January 24, 2012

Ok, apologies, that may have come out wrong. What I meant was that an excess of tactical changes of emphasis could be read as opportunism, discarding one approach in favour of another which appears to offer new and improved chances of success. I’m not discounting the validity of tachical changes, just questioning the threshold at which emphasis appears to shift, and questioning whether one should totally overtake the other. I agree that the current campaign is an important one and I would absolutely recognise that navel gazing over the future of the ULA is probably not the highest priority in the middle of a fast ramp up of that campaign, especially in the lead in to the March 31 registration deadline and the expected propaganda offensive by the gov’t. However, regardless of the success of otherwise of the household tax campaign, it has to be acknowledged that even if hundreds of thousands of people reject the household tax, and hopefully develop some class consciousness and enthusiasm for fightback as part of the process, this in itself won’t necessarily translate into an immediate or sustainable mass membership of a political party. As was seen with the PAYE tax demonstrations in past decades. The latter did probably contribute to an increase in electoral success for the WP. But clearly the WP of the 80s isn’t today’s ULA.

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Mark P - January 24, 2012

Well no. The ULA is smaller that the WP was in activist terms at the start of the 1980s and larger in electoral terms, which is an unfortunate combination in some ways. I’d certainly swap two or three or four Dail seats for an extra thousand activists in a heartbeat.

I’m not sure where you get the idea that the Socialist Party goes in for “an excess of tactical changes of emphasis” however. It’s probably the least flighty group on the Irish left and can quite happily devote itself to a particular approach for decades on end. (Which isn’t always a good thing).

It’s particularly odd coming from a supporter of the Workers Party, which has certainly had its successes over the years, but has also adopted a frankly bewildering series of different political and tactical attitudes. If you don’t mind me saying, LATC, I suspect that you’ve picked up some anti-Trotskyist boilerplate in your current political environs.

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LeftAtTheCross - January 24, 2012

No, I haven’t picked up anything but thanks for the thought all the same 🙂

Ok, you’re probably right, any accusations of ultra-Left opportunism would really be better aimed at the SWP in fairness.

But on the substantive question, that of emphasis on building the household tax campaign rather than the ULA under the present circumstances, it’s difficult to read the SP link pointed to above as a positive statement of intent from the SP about the ULA. Or have you a different interpretation?

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LeftAtTheCross - January 24, 2012

“some anti-Trotskyist boilerplate”

..says the man who is fond of throwing around phrases like “ageing Stalinists”. Pots and kettles Mark P, pots and kettles.

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Mark P - January 24, 2012

The Socialist Party proposed forming the ULA, proposed having an individual membership rather than limiting it to groups, pushed to set up as many branches as possible, has argued for stronger structures, etc. We think that the ULA is useful and important and we want to improve it and that hasn’t changed. However, the SP does not think that the necessary forces are there to launch a new mass or semi-mass party, and it isn’t going to go along with the transformation of the ULA into a party until that changes.

None of that has really changed since the ULA was established!

I also don’t think that it’s correct to counterpose building the ULA to building a particular campaign or struggle. The ULA should be built precisely through campaigns and struggles.

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Mark P - January 24, 2012

Actually, the “boilerplate” thing was semi-serious, LATC. An inbuilt tendency to opportunism would be one of the things I’ve often heard geriatric Stalinists claim about Trotskyism, pretty much regardless of the relevance of the point to whatever it is they are actually giving out about.

I wasn’t complaining about you being abrasive (I’m not quite that lacking in self-awareness), just saying that I didn’t see the connection with the behaviour your were describing, and so, wondering if it was part of the WP’s current parlance. Back in the day, the WP had a long list of stock insults for the dreaded Trots, most of them applied indiscriminately to groups .which didn’t necessarily have much in common.

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LeftAtTheCross - January 24, 2012

Ok. No, I don’t believe it is part of the current parlance within the WP. I would tend to believe that there’s a healthy attitude to the SP in general. And close co-operation on campaigns such as the household tax would tend to increase that. Also LookLeft has provided an open platform to the SP. So, no, whatever about Trots having horns and eating babies, I think the urge to take a pick-axe to you all may have diminished somewhat. For the moment at least. 🙂

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Mark P - January 24, 2012

Glad to hear it, LATC!

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Dr.Nightdub - January 24, 2012

From ice-pick to pick-axe is one hell of an escalation

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LeftAtTheCross - January 24, 2012

🙂

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Admin - January 25, 2012

The SP wrote: “Moving to establish a party without the actual involvement of significant numbers of ordinary working class people, would lead to it becoming an irrelevant political sect.”

Well, aren’t they called the Socialist *Party* not the Socialist *League* or Socialist *Group* or whatever? So they established, presumably, “a party without the actual involvement of significant numbers of ordinary working class people.” So, according to their own logic, they must have formed “an irrelevant political sect”. They can’t have it both ways.

Phil
http://theirishrevolution.wordpress.com/

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Mark P - January 25, 2012

The Socialist Party does not regard itself as a ‘party’ in a meaningful sense, but as a smallish activist group.

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5. Justin Moran - January 24, 2012

I think McGee’s article, though reasonably fair, understates the challenges a party (broadly defined) like the ULA face in Leinster House. And lest this come across as a wee bit patronising, it’s only my experience of working for Sinn Féin in Leinster House and facing similar challenges.

The reality is that it’s very difficult for people who are completely new to national politics at the Dáil level to get to top speed very quickly. This doesn’t just apply to TDs, but also to the PAs and press officers that come with a Dáil presence. Even those ULA members who were previously TDs would need time to catch up and learn how to function in an archaic, bureaucratic and stifling political environment.

One of the reasons Sinn Féin has been the effective opposition in Leinster House for the last year has been a core group of TDs and policy advisors with a great deal of experience to coordinate the work of the new TDs. Fianna Fáil TDs were being heard to ask how one puts in a parliamentary question months after the election, so unused were many of them to opposition politics despite many years actually being in the Dáil.

A new ULA TD/policy type has to adjust to a completely new job, to having to research and agree policy positions on issues that the party had never considered or previously had a position on, to deal with the demands of a higher media profile, lobbies, committee work, producing pre-budget submissions, constituency work, and the unique challenges of a self-styled revolutionary party ensuring they don’t become institutionalised.

I do think the ULA hasn’t been particularly effective, and I’d agree with WBS and McGee on some of the reasons why. But I’d also be wary of being too harsh on them. Realistically, it’s up to now and the first budget out of the way, they’ve still been settling in.

It’s also made more challenging by the structure of the organisation. On any fair analysis you’d have Joe Higgins leading and Clare Daly as the number two. They’re the most effective media operators the ULA has, the best in Dáil debates and there’s no harm in the gender balance. But obviously that’s not the way it has worked out.

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6. Jim Monaghan - January 24, 2012

On left unity
Any chance of teh CPOI and WP getting t ogether. They attend similar conferences abroad.They could then approach the ULA for a front

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Julian Assandwich - January 24, 2012

Here, here. Everyone has something to add and the ULA programme is hardly controversial. An invite should be extended and would be fitting as for me ‘Look Left’ may have been the first post-sectarian development.

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7. ghandi - January 24, 2012

“As an aside, I note that Sinn Fein, which has adopted the traditional Lab/DL approach of “don’t fight, vote for us instead”, has sent activists to at least some of the large anti-water tax meetings to scaremonger and try to undermine people’s resolve. There’s nothing like a real struggle to make some real lines clear”.

This is something we have got reports of and are watching for, the simply question to them is what is their strategy to win this campaign?, of course their difficulty stems from implementing the same policies in the North.

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8. ghandi - January 24, 2012

LATC I assume that’s not a real pick axe handle, also does anyone know why having switched to Google Chrome the fonts are unreadable? and I can’t find anything.

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9. Julian Assandwich - January 24, 2012

I think the SP position regarding wanting the alliance to run a few campaigns together first to be the best way to go to draw in more activists.

However, that doesn’t mean we can’t have competent alliance structures in the mean time to assist the branches in bringing more activists into the struggle. Put yourself in the shoes of someone who signed up to be a member of the ULA at one of the launch meetings:

-There is no co-ordinated effort being made to nurture and create this new layer of activists(a single national workshop meeting in 15months. Even some branches go months without meeting).

– As post says, the ULA is not signposted on any of the various campaigns, nor is there a ULA policy for action within any of the campaigns, nor is there anyone there speaking on behalf of the ULA if there was some position.

-Zero communication from the central ULA, not even as much as an updated website(though that might be changing).

-The Galway ULA branch submitted motions passed at their December AGM(by SP,SWP,Ind alike) to the steering committee to be distributed to the branches to be discussed. Completely ignored.

-Several branches on the back of independents attempted to establish ULA Societies in their respective colleges with no assistance(in fact, competition) from component parties.

So we can see the experience of a new ULA activist is quite alienating. Contact is erratic and very rare. Information is like gold-dust. Passed branch motions are ignored by the steering committee.They have no say in formulating central policy, or any policy. An SWP comrade in my first ULA branch meeting in Feb2010 insisted ULA elections would be held that summer. Independents/nonaligned have no say in when a conference is held, what the agenda is, what gets discussed, who speaks.

News breaks via gossip and component party cliques. This is especially demoralizing.

The experience of an independent in association(member of an alliance?) with the alliance, then, is mostly to leaflet and put up and down signs for meetings and be asked to poster up town or attend protests outside Dail with usually just a text/24 hours notice. A footsoldier running on illusions. Every independent I know has in their time been asked to join one of the component parties.

When there is an option to take the plane to sunny Australia, it’s not hard to see why half of those between 21-25 and what 150+k(?) overall have left the country since 2008 and not joined the ULA.

Also a few points

-Activism is low in Ireland(and everywhere) anyway. Labour and SF have no more than 5k each. By the end of 2012 the ULA could have comparable activist levels to other new left parties across Europe. To get to mass party levels would need to greatly increase the total activist pool which might only be 30k in total. On the eve of WW1 the German Social Democratic Party, 1 in every 60 people in Germany were members. That would represent 75,000 people in Ireland in 2011. Die Linke today is 71k or 1 in every 1,100 people.(To equal that ratio, the ULA would need 4k activists -not unreachable for everyone left of SF).

-The SP is involved in all the European new left(“mass or semi-mass”) parties. TUSC(which is explicitly an alliance) has an organised independent technical group representing the new members

– On one campus that I am aware of, the SP actually initiated a separate anti-fees campaign from arguably the most successful left campaign group in the country(FEE). (Though the SWP would later split the entire organisation’s day of action after it disagreed with the vote which they participated in.. and voted for)

All that being said, the ULA is still a great success and is the basis for the future. All sides have played a constructive role at one point or another. But when people say “the ULA hasn’t grown as much as we would have liked by now”, yes a big factor is post-election mellowness, but we also have to look at ourselves.

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10. HAL - January 24, 2012

“Back in the day, the WP had a long list of stock insults for the dreaded Trots”
This kills me all the time,because back in the day the Trots were’nt even on the register,Never got a mention ever.Even now WP members dont mention the word Trot that much but it is creeping in as it’s now the Trots who seem to get most satisfaction in attacking us,even most provos have moved on.But hey listen with the night thats in it and us all appearing on RTE together let’s leave the Axe handles and the shit shovels aside for a few nights.

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Mark P - January 24, 2012

HAL, I think that your memory is perhaps a little faulty. The Workers Party gave us the immortal epithet “Provo-Trot”, and used to pour scorn on Trotskyists on a sporadic basis. I’m certainly not suggesting that smaller left groups of any kind were a major concern of the WP, but it was splenetic when the subject did arise.

I’m not sure where you get the idea that Trotskyists spend much time attacking the WP nowadays from either, unless you mean that there are occasional arguments in the comments section of this blog!

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HAL - January 24, 2012

Never heard of the term Provo-Trot might have been some regional thing.I do remember a few leading lights in the party describing Vincent Browne and Eamon Dunphy as Fine Gael Trots make of that what you will but otherwise nada.

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Starkadder - January 25, 2012

I think while the average WP member wasn’t a fan
of Mr. Bronshtein’s ideas, it was the group around
Harris who made a big issue out of being anti-Trotskyite.

Of course for industrial-strength anti-Trotskyism, you
could dig out almost anything by the CPI (ML)… 😉

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tomasoflatharta - January 25, 2012

WorldbyStorm on the United Irishman, September 1972 : “The text is revealing. Already the rhetoric is ramping up. We read here about ‘Provo-Trots’, we read some unkind words about ‘Trots’ in Peoples Democracy, we read further unkind words about almost everyone else”

The Left Archive: The United Irishmen from Official Sinn Féin, September 1972

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11. tomasoflatharta - January 25, 2012
12. Organising the independents « revolutionaryprogramme - January 25, 2012

[…] This overlaps to some degree with my own arguments on web forums discussing this issue (see cedarlounge.wordpress.com/2012/01/24/talking-about-your-ula/#comment-113231 and http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?t=10597&page=10 – posting on politicalworld as […]

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13. Jim Monaghan - January 25, 2012

I think it is a bit of what comes first, chicken or egg, in the debate on whether the ULA is big enough. I feel something broader is necessary to grow beyond either the SP or SWP.Never mind the rest of the alphabet soup outside the ULA.
The independents in the ULA have not that much in common except the fact of not belonging to either SP or SWP
I am sorry to say my enthusiasm is not as much as before.
I would like a party. I think one would grow
I think consensus or at least 2/3 majorities are necessary.
There is no use in winning majorities where the minority leaves or just sits on their hands. Winning is about convincing.
I think there is a gap between the activists of the far left and a layer of just below who do not work quite so hard. Maybe it is just lazyness or age but the workrate of the SWP activists locally is beyond me and I suspect others.
Nevermind me but how do you make a permanent connection with layers of alienated workers and the cadre.The WP had a membership whch did not mobilise 7 days a week in its hayday.I know the SPs burnout rate is better than the SWP, but I suspect it is higher than it should be.

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14. E - January 25, 2012

Just reading though these comments as an member of the SWP who has moved to London last year, yes the SP is right in their desire for more activists or people becoming activists for the first time, joining and expanding the ULA into something more proper.

And yes, the Household Charge campaign, run properly, can attach these people to the ULA

But I really think now is the time to register the ULA as a full party, especially in the Dail. This should happen after all parts of the alliance have had the chance to have full conferences to agreed this move. I believe (I might be wrong), the ULA is still not registered as a political party, this technical issue has to be resolved asap.

If this happens, then the ULA has to be seen as separate from the Technical Group, in fact making it the 5th largest party in the Dail.. that can only help the profile of the alliance/party. We need to separate from the diverse bunch of independents.

Even looking at the new ULA website, it gives the impression of more unity or party feel now, maybe that is intentional, so I hope the moves in that direction continue!

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Jolly Red Giant - January 25, 2012

The ULA will not bee seen as a seperate technical group in the current Dail even if it registered as a party – for two reasons –

1. None of the 5 ULA TD’s were elected as ULA candidates and therefore the ULA is not recognised in the current dail

2. A group has to have seven members before it is recognised as a party group – so even if the 5 ULA TD’s were recognised as belonging to the ULA – they cannot form a recognised parliamentary group as they do not have 7 TDs.

There can be only one ‘technical group’ in the Dail and all independent TDs and TDs of parties with less than 7 members have to be allowed participate in the Technical Group if they want to – some don’t like Healey-Rae.

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15. E - January 26, 2012

Ok, thanks for clearing that up..

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WorldbyStorm - January 26, 2012

JRG is correct. That said I’d also agree with the thrust of your post which is to get more of a unity or party feel.

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16. D_D - January 30, 2012

Again I draw attention to some contributions on the development of the ULA from a generally nonaligned point of view:

http://www.irishleftreview.org/2011/…posals-future/
http://www.irishleftreview.org/2011/05/20/hope-ireland/

Build the ULA


http://tomasoflatharta.com/2011/11/2…-eddie-conlon/

A central station for nonaligned views on the ULA is to be found also at Julian’s Blog of Blogg at:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Left-Unity-Blogging-Network/230558593642145

and his own site is often a source of them:

http://weareragbags.wordpress.com/

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17. Brendan Young - February 3, 2012

Where to now for the ULA?
Eddie Conlon, Brendan Young.

We offer the following as a contribution to the developing debate about the future of the ULA. As a conferences has now been called for April 21 we would hope that a wide ranging debate would take place about the future of the ULA. Members and branches should also submit ideas to the sub-committee that has been established to look at the ULA’s structures.

The establishment of the ULA was a big step forward for the left particularly for those of us who have promoted the idea of left unity as the basis for the establishment of a new mass workers party. The ULA must be nurtured and developed and allowed to grow at a pace that maintains the unity that has been established while at the same time creating a forward momentum based on united work, real and respectful internal debate and discussion and an acknowledgement that it will take time for the ULA to move beyond being an alliance to some kind of unitary formation that will from the nucleus of a new party.

There is much frustration at the slow pace of development. It is the case that it could be a little easier but there are reasons why it’s not: the ULA is an alliance (maybe even a federation) of founding groups with members who are not members of these groups; levels of struggles have not been as high as we would like them to be and the presence in the Dáil has created a set of problems that we have not had to face before. As a result, as an experienced activist said to one of us in the supermarket recently, the ULA lacks bite.

The tasks facing the ULA are to build a national profile whereby the public see us as the real opposition with a real political alternative and the best organisers; build an active branch structure in all areas where the constituent groups have a presence and beyond ; improve communications and internal debate (internal bulletin, better website and newsletter) creating a real internal life for the ULA. But the real challenge, in our opinion, is the degree of commitment to politically prioritising the ULA; little real joint work; and the existence of a number of campaigns (such as Enough) that are doing what should be done through the ULA.

Until the ULA becomes the main priority for all constituents it will not be built in a serious way. A stark opposition has emerged between the Socialist Party’s cautious approach based on an assessment that objective conditions are not conducive to significant growth of the ULA and the SWP’s voluntarism which suggest that anything is possible if we just work harder. The latter leads to a constant demand for mobilisation leading to poorly prepared and poorly attended protests. The former is in danger of demoralising people by suggesting that there’s not much that can be done.

As a bottom line the emphasis should shift from constituents running their own campaigns when they cannot get agreement in the ULA to agreeing to focus on campaigns where everyone is in agreement. There is evidence that a common approach to the HH Tax campaign may be emerging and also that it is seen by some, particularly the SP, as a potential turning point in building resistance to austerity. It should not be assumed that the HH Tax campaign will automatically lead to the growth of the ULA unless it contributes to the campaign in a cohesive fashion and seeks to draw the best activists to the ULA rather than to the constituent groups.

The ULA was established on the basis that there was much on which we agree but some issues which divide us. The focus must remain on areas of agreement and developing the programme so that it is more relevant to the crises around us and incorporates more areas where there is agreement. Where we disagree there should be ongoing and open debate. The ULA needs to facilitate more debate and clarification. It might be the case that what there might be even more we agree on than we thought! Differences can only be overcome through debate and discussion. Given the operation of consensus decision making there should be real efforts to reach consensus. Vetos should only be used after a period of discussion. And the content of these discussions should be made open to members so that they are aware of debates taking place in the ULA and are politically educated by the process of debate.

There is now an attempt to resolve differences by those, particularly the SWP, arguing that we need a delegate conference with full decision making powers. This is a mechanism to get around the fact that there is not agreement on perspectives. Because agreement cannot be found through discussion, it is to be imposed via majority vote. It is an organisational solution to a political problem. The ULA is not ready for such a development:

The election of voting branch delegates could lead to a race to have the most delegates; and the dynamic would be to create a leadership structure based upon proportionality of representation / delegates at the conference.

A voting conference, at this stage – where there is no agreement on political perspectives – will lead to polarisation and either paralysis or passive split. The majority will have its positions adopted, so what will the minority do?

On account of being organised, the SP and SWP will have an organised intervention into the conference – rendering the presentation of the views of independents less likely.

Finally the degree of internal communication is such that there would not be adequate internal debate prior to such a conference.

There is no agreement (the SP and Tipperary WUAG are opposed) on moving to this kind of decision making; and the for the reasons set out above, we agree. We need to work with what we have while building in structures that allow for non-aligned people to organise and have representation within the ULA. From the start we have supported the idea that the non-aligned members should have representation on the Steering Committee, elected only by these members themselves with the same rights to veto as the constituent organisations. It is unfortunate that in recent weeks PBP took a position against this. Arguing that all members should elect the non-aligned reps to the SC is to argue that they should have less rights and autonomy than the constituent groups. Further it sends the wrong message to prospective members and would reinforce the view that the ULA is a tool of the founding organisations. All members attending the conference should however vote to ratify the delegates to the SC – including those delegates independently selected by a meeting of the non-aligned members.

How non-aligned representation is organised and how political differences are managed is a matter for the non-aligned. There is a value in having people in the leadership feeding in the views of the non-aligned even if they are diverse. We should value political pluralism both within the ULA and its constituents. The imposition of lines through democratic centralist methods is not conducive to the kind of debate we need.

The expansion of the SC could be complemented by regular gatherings of branch activists to discuss ongoing work and have political discussions. There are some good ideas here, for example the formation of a ULA Council, which should be explored.

In recent days we have seen significant decisions made by the Steering Committee that hopefully will facilitate the ULA in moving forward:

1. A conference of the ULA is to be held on the 21st of April.

2. The Steering Committee also agreed that individual members of the ULA, comrades who are not members of the founding organisations, should meet separately during the Conference and elect members to represent them on the Steering Committee. 

3. The Steering Committee has also agreed to set up a sub-committee – which should also include some individual, as well as members from the constituent groups – with the following terms of reference:
A) Recommend interim arrangements for representation of unaligned members on Steering Committee
B) Discuss future development of ULA including the development of participative structures
C) To consult all members on the above issues
D) Report to Steering Committee who will report to conference. The report of the Steering Committee to Conference will include the recommendations of the sub-committee

4. These were the main decisions of the Steering Committee held on Tuesday the 31 of January and clearly will need to be supplemented at the next meetings.

While these decisions do not resolve all issues hopefully they will provided the basis for a more structured debate on where the ULA is going. Hopefully it will encourage more people to join by sending out a message that there is a space in the ULA for those not aligned to the constituent groups. After all the very rationale for the ULA was to provide a mechanism for reaching out beyond the current membership and supporters of the constituents to a new layer of people who want to engage with radical and socialist politics.

Eddie Conlon. ULA/PBP Steering Committees
Brendan Young. Independent ULA/PBPA

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