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Fighting with one hand tied behind your back… ICTU vs IBEC October 22, 2009

Posted by WorldbyStorm in Economy, Irish Politics.
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Reading the discussion between Paul Sweeney of ICTU and David Croughan of IBEC is a dispiriting experience. Dispiriting because Croughan articulates the current deflationary orthodoxy, in this instance the necessity for public sector wage cuts as some means of achieving ‘fairness and effectivity’ while Sweeney puts up the counterargument. There’s little enough heat, it’s all ‘in sorrow more than anger’ but by the same token there’s little enough light either Croughan is able to make a very questionable statement that lies at the heart of his thesis pass almost entirely unchecked.

Croughan argues, not unsurprisingly, that,

The central problem has been the decline in competitiveness caused by the squeezing out of the traded goods and services sector by an overheated construction industry, which bid up wage rates and other costs. We are now 15 per cent less competitive in relation to our trading partners than we were in 2000. This position needs urgent redress. In a single currency, a loss of competitiveness cannot be countered by devaluation; costs, including labour costs, must fall.

This will be a most interesting process to see. Hitherto the media have been delighted to point to prices falling – ‘Rip-off Ireland’ etc. But if wages fall in tandem then the impact of price falls is diminished or even reversed.

Croughan argues also that:

There is a clear choice between jobs and pay. There have been enough job losses. It is grossly unfair and obviously ineffective to allow Irish pay rates to put more people out of work. That is why pay rises before 2011 are unrealistic.

This is an interesting one too. Is he arguing for a freeze or cuts. There’s a degree of ambiguity here between ‘labour costs’ and ‘no pay rises’. Worth probing I’d have thought. And indeed the stated IBEC position is that:

“Proposals published in June for the suspension of the private sector pay terms of the national agreement need to be formalised by IBEC and ICTU. This will give clear direction to the State dispute resolution bodies such as the Labour Relations Commission and the Labour Court, which should recognise the new norms. Clearly the agreement of a year ago is inappropriate and the honest course is for all to accept these new realities.”

And then… the fetishistic talisman of the public finances… for if we rub the talisman, vigorously, then all will be well… nevermind that the actual impact of say a 5% wage cut will be… well, you can read it here.

The reality is that tax revenue, which is solely reliant on our ability to successfully trade goods and services at home and abroad, is insufficient to pay for current public expenditure levels.

No dispute there.

Despite April’s Supplementary Budget, which outlined the corrective action needed to reduce the borrowing requirement to less than 11 per cent of GDP, the most recent exchequer returns point to the deficit rising to an unsustainable 12 per cent. This will result in an even higher cost of servicing the debt, which is already set to rise from €3.9 billion in 2008 to €11.2 billion by 2013. Attempts to improve the situation by excessive tax increases will only make matters worse by stifling growth and adding even more to the burden of those trying to compete in a competitive world.

Hmmm… Some dispute there, but that’s another days work.

Anyhow, he continues…

Both the private and public sectors are in a similar position: the private sector must contain costs to survive and grow businesses and employment; the public sector must contain costs within the limits of tax revenue to avoid crippling taxation or unsustainably high debt levels. The burden of adjustment must therefore be borne by both public and private sectors.

And then we get to the heart of the argument.

Ibec has carried out extensive survey work this year on a sample of over 500 companies employing close to 90,000 employees. On average the total pay bill in private sector companies has decreased by 11 per cent in 2009. Of course, this has not been uniform across all sectors; those companies facing the most difficulties cut the most. Of the 56 per cent of companies that had reduced their pay bill, the average reduction was 21 per cent.

Anyone see the omission? Well, let him continue for a second.

Private companies have achieved these pay reductions in a variety of ways. Aside from wage reductions, some employees have accepted pay reductions by forfeiting shift premiums; others have worked unpaid overtime; others have agreed to taking one or two days a month of unpaid leave. This has not only reduced pay levels but has also increased productivity.

Fantastic. But it’s also cut peoples wages significantly.

A large number of companies indicated further pay reductions were needed in 2010. While not all private sector employees have experienced pay cuts, those working in businesses most affected by the recession have accepted substantial pay reductions of the order of 12 per cent to protect their jobs.

Okay, a further omission – no?

What is the figure for the number of companies that have seen wages cut out of the 500? What he gives us is data pointing to ‘on average…total pay bill… decreased by 11 percent in 2009 (btw, 2009 isn’t over yet so one wonders whether we should treat that with some degree of caution). And that 56 per cent figure… What is the provenance of that?

He doesn’t say… curious – eh?

I can point you here…

Or, computer, browser and keyboard operating in tandem, I can go to FINFACTS from last month here and read a slightly different outline of the situation.

A new IBEC survey of 508 companies, which together employ over 86,000 employees, shows that the majority of Irish enterprises had pay freezes and reductions in staff numbers in 2009. Just over 20% of employers have implemented pay reductions. The IBEC Business Sentiment Survey (Q3) was carried out between 17-29 August 2009.

Now maybe this seems like semantics, but it truly isn’t. For it is one thing to argue that 56 per cent of the private sector has ‘reduced their wage bill’, but quite another to say that just over 20% had implemented pay reductions.

The raw data is even more revealing.

More than half of companies (56%) have reduced their pay bill over the past 12 months by an average of 21%.

• Pay freezes (59%) and reduced numbers employed (55%) have been put in place in 2009
• Recruitment freezes (59%) and retraining of existing staff (45%) are among the most likely actions by employers in the next three months.
• A reduction in permanent staff is expected in 28% of companies and is under consideration in a further 42%.
• For 2010, half (48%) expect their pay bill to remain the same and one third (33%) expect it to decrease. The average expected decrease is 14%.
• A reduction in temporary numbers is expected in 32% of companies with 29% considering doing so.
• Short-time working is expected in 22% of companies, with a further 45% considering implementation.
• 31% of businesses intend to eliminate bonus payments and a further 29% intend reducing such payments.

Now a wage freeze is no fun, but that’s what is being experienced in the public sector as well, and an overtime ban and a recruitment embargo (even if we put aside all else such as pension levies), and lest the issue of incremental pay be thrown in I would be amazed if that isn’t subject to a freeze or reworking at the upcoming Budget.

Let’s put this a different way. Of the 508 companies IBEC approached, and we have no sense of how self-selecting that process was, 46% were clearly increasing the wage bill. Some 80% saw wages remain the same or increase (and this at a time when we are told inflation has dropped 6/5%, albeit 4% of that is mortgage related) and 41% continue to recruit. Hmmm… not quite so exciting is it?

Note too the ‘expected’s’ and ‘under considerations’ etc. Because if one looks at the data the glass is more than half full for one of the most severe economic situations we’ve experienced in the past fifty or so years, I’d have thought, and by quite some way. And already the economic forecasts are considerably brighter than they have been.

So, to Paul Sweeney.

What are his thoughts on these matters? Well, I agree with him as regards the utility or otherwise of wage cuts…

ECONOMY-WIDE CUTS in wages will reduce sales, throw people out of jobs and close firms. It will be deflationary and will delay the recovery. It will reduce tax revenue to the Government and require increased public spending on job supports.

Indeed Michael Taft has noted how this very policy continues to undermine the Government’s own plans for recovery forcing it to greater and greater breaches of its own stated economic plans as regards deficit control.

But to the issue of wage cuts…

Secondly, earnings, wages and salaries in the private sector have not fallen in recent times. They have risen, the latest data show.

Okay. Er… what data?

Nope, we’re moving onto thirdly…

Thirdly, and this is rarely acknowledged by the wage-cuts chorus, Irish earnings, wage rates and salaries are still below those in most competitor countries, according to published comparative data. More importantly, the total cost of employing a worker in Ireland is well below that of most competitor countries (22nd down a long list of the rich countries according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development in 2007). I acknowledge that the rise in the value of the euro has reduced our position since then.

And, indeed, fourthly…

It is generally not known that Ireland’s productivity remains one of the highest in the world, in spite of recent slow growth. The last OECD survey put us at second highest in the world after Norway and ahead of the US in 2006. However, our position is boosted by transfer pricing by multinationals companies (MNCs). But even adjusting for this, we are still one of the top performers.

Which is great, but really, we need to see some sort of defence against the earlier statements by Croughan. Now in fairness to Sweeney I presume that his piece was written not as a response but as a companion piece and therefore he did not get access to the text of Croughan’s article. But that said it is no secret as to what line of attack IBEC are taking and it is necessary when dealing with IBEC – even at arms length, as here – to address their discussions.

And also in fairness he does touch upon the issue once more.

Where total earnings are being adjusted downwards in individual firms in the private sector, it is mainly through reduced hours, new ways of working, reduced bonuses, etc. Yet unions are agreeing to reductions in the basic wage rate where the firms or jobs are at serious risk. However, as stated above, private sector earnings are not falling nationally. And Irish exports are doing well compared to those of many countries, which is instructive in this debate on competitiveness.

And while absolutely correct that’s not really sufficient, particularly in a debate where figures are thrown about by the contesting parties – there is an overriding necessity to be clear and to be responsive.

This may be an unlovely comparison, but the last twenty years saw political parties recognising the necessity to issue rebuttals on specific assertions. That that devolved on occasion into a ‘he says, she says’ process doesn’t take away from the reality that on occasion it was central to shaping political arguments. I note that IBEC, ISME and the SFA are past masters of shaping releases on these very matters on a continual basis. There’s some good stuff on the ICTU site,

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1. Michael Taft - October 22, 2009

WBS – just a statistical note: the CSO does state that overall wages increased in the first quarter of this year. However, at the sub-level there is an interesting twist. In the manufacturing sector, office floor workers saw their hourly earnings fall by -2.3%, factory floor workers saw theirs fall by -0.8%; the managerial sector experienced a 6.5% increase. In addition, annual bonuses to the management sector were 2.5 times that of the bonuses they received in 2006 Q1. So, the hourly earnings of workers are cut to subsidise wage and bonus increases to management.

As to the wider issues: tax revenue cannot defy the laws of economic gravity. If you pursue deflationary fiscal policies (tax increses, public spending cuts) that depress economic growth, you will depress tax revenue. And what this happens – when tax revenue undershoots targets with the resulting fall in the deficit – what do these bright sparks propose? More deflationary policies. These will, in turn, depress the economy and tax revenue and . . . well, you know the rest.

There’s another little trick at work here: a number of companies are T2016 compliant (that is, they continue to pay the wage agreement). This is particularly so in much of our modern (i.e. MNC) export sector such as chemicals. IBEC’s insists that no wage increases be paid – even if a company can afford it. Now, imagine you own a business that sells goods or services into the domestic economy. What do you want? More people with more money in their pockets. What will be the effect of IBEC’s insistence? Less money in people’s pockets. In effect, companies that can afford to pay wage increases (but don’t) are screwing companies that desperately need more disposable income circulating. This is economic cannabilism.

So: management does in workers to enhance their own incomes, deflationary fiscal policies depress tax revenue which result in more IBEC demands for deflationary fiscal policies, and companies that can afford to pay wage increases rob companies reiliant upon the domestic economy.

Yes, untie the hand. And while we’re at it – let’s inject a little passion, even anger, into our arguments against economic illiteracy.

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2. Proposition Joe - October 22, 2009

@WbS

Just a minor nit-pick.

… and lest the issue of incremental pay be thrown in I would be amazed if that isn’t subject to a freeze or reworking at the upcoming Budget.

Note too the `expected’s’ and `under considerations’ etc.

So you expect incremental pay rises to be frozen, but a paragraph later cast doubt on an argument built on expectations?

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3. Crocodile - October 22, 2009

The confirmation by Cowen that all the ‘savings’ are to be achieved by another slash at the public sector must come as a relief to the media. They have to be getting bored with writing cutting exposes of how primary teachers work three days a year for quarter of a million, by now.Relax, lads: that battle is won.
Now you can move on to slating any trades union that dares to oppose the cuts.Industrial action should be ruled out as counter-productive and even unpatriotic. The IBEC agenda seems to have been swallowed wholesale by Lenihan and Cowan: now is the time to press on and break the unions once and for all.

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4. CMK - October 22, 2009

Crocodile. Yes, I think that’s the agend in one. I think the government will get a walkover in the terms of the next budget. Union leaders are obviously nervous of getting into an old-fashioned confrontation involving strikes etc.

But, more depressingly, from my experience many union members have swallowed the media spin wholesale and are unwilling to countenance industrial action. My own branch of SIPTU is indicative. At a recent meeting more spoke against taking action than spoke in favour; actually, nobody spoke in favour! The branch convenor cut a forlorn figure!

It’s a beautiful time be a right-winger where you have workers who will have taken pay cuts of between 12-20% in the space of 12 months, and who still baulk at industrial action and get snarky with union officials who believe it’s a good option.

Any strikes will be relatively easy to break in the current climate. IMPACT might go out for a few days but the media onslaught will force them back pretty soon; because that media onslaught is a reflection of the force of the “lazy public sector whingers” position which in animating many personal/family discussions. The latter point of view has achieved absolute hegemony among not only the media but significant cohorts of workers, public and private sector.

I think, by five years time, public sector workers will have taken pay cuts of 30-40% plus. Then the dynamic will swing back round, axiomatically, to “private sector workers are overpaid compared to public sector workers and they’re threatening our competitiveness”. And the whole merry-go-round will perpetuate itself.

We’re in for an interesting few years; better used to baked beans and toast as a main evening meal again!

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Crocodile - October 22, 2009

That defeatism is apparent in my workplace and at my union meetings too. The woman at the desk next to mine remarked : ‘We’re working longer hours than ever, there’s no prospect of promotion, and we’ve taken a pay cut – but thinks I’m on some kind of public service gravy train!’
Such is the power of the media…and even as I type this the first two stories on the RTE Lunchtime News are about the rising cost of public service pensions and the rise in the number of public service sick days. I don’t know who’s in charge of news management for this government, but they’re bloody good at their job. Wish they were running the economy.

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Crocodile - October 22, 2009

Last line of first paragraph should read: ‘my own husband thinks I’m on some kind of..
I seem to be having the same kind of italicising trouble SonofStan had a couple of days ago.

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CMK - October 22, 2009

Yes, we are witnessing the awesome power of the media and what it’s capable of when intensely focused on one particular target.

Is it suprising that the print media and parts of the broadcast media, which are businesses before anything else, take the IBEC line on the current situation?

The left and the unions need to start pushing for enforceable sanctions against media organisations who tell blatant lies.

So, for instance, the use of the superlative in reference to Irish social welfare payments and public sector pay, where such references can’t be backed up by objective data, should be penalised.

It won’t happen, of course, but it’s nonetheless worth speculating about ways in which to get back at the b******ds!

Do ICTU, SIPTU, IMPACT have any mediawatch units? If they don’t they should have.

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WorldbyStorm - October 22, 2009

The sick days story raised a sort of grim laugh in me. Seems we’re actually conforming to other civil service/public sector norms in other countries with the amount going sick. Could the situation be improved, not likely if others haven’t managed to do so, and of course the implicit tone was that people weren’t ‘sick’.

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5. Crocodile - October 22, 2009

Maybe the Dept of Finance has found a way to cut the pay bill – just let IBEC write the budget!

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6. Proposition Joe - October 22, 2009

The left and the unions need to start pushing for enforceable sanctions against media organisations who tell blatant lies.

So, for instance, the use of the superlative in reference to Irish social welfare payments and public sector pay, where such references can’t be backed up by objective data, should be penalised.

You’re getting into dangerous MiniTrue-style territory there.

Always better to try to win the argument rather than suppress the dissenter.

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EWI - December 4, 2009

Always better to try to win the argument rather than suppress the dissenter.

Nice try. The problem here, as I suspect you know well, is that there’s no way to win the argument with a hostile corporate media (and I can easily go back as far as the nineteenth century in showing cases of this).

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WorldbyStorm - December 4, 2009

Very true.

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7. Frankly Mr. Shankly - October 22, 2009

Roisin Shorthall is on Matt Cooper now sorting out the payment of child benefit to the kids of immigrant workers, who pay tax here (not fraud, entitlement under EU law). Good move. That’s what we need Labour to be doing. Never mind JP McManus, give it to the migrant workers.

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8. CMK - October 22, 2009

So, you’re happy with “Big Lies” to go unchallenged? I agree that its dangerous territory, but these are getting to be dangerous times.

The cuts to come will likely reduce, dramatically in some cases, the life expectancy of hundreds and possibly thousands of Irish citizens. Furthermore, they’ll immiserate hundreds of thousands. Much of the ideological covering fire for this process has been provided by media outlets, who are businesses supporting the IBEC agenda. All of that covering fire is completely unchalleged, save for a few items here and there in RTE.

All I’m calling for is a recognition that the current “consensus” is anything but and is, rather, the carefully crafted construction of a few supremely powerful vested interest groups who have a clear idea of how they’d like see Irish socio-economic relations progress over the next couple of decades. And they’re not going to let this crisis pass without pushing that agenda as far as it can go.

Children’s allowance, which was intensely resisted prior to its introduction in the early 1940s, will likely go out the door altogether within 10 years; decent public sector pay and conditions will likely follow; private sector pay will be pushed further downwards; the privatisation of health and education are as yet undeclared objectives but they are objectives nonetheless. While the supreme prize, as Crocodile noted, – the emasculation or complete destruction of the unions – will require a detailed strategy and long term planning but, you can be sure, is being discussed by precisely these vested interests and their media servants.

There is a huge structural inequality built into the current media “debate”. That so many find that inequality neither troubling nor worth of criticism is itself deeply troubling.

I don’t want an officially enforced “truth” but I don’t think a free-for-all where any old crap can be published can serve an informed debate.

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9. Tomboktu - October 22, 2009

I was struck by another recent weakness in communication by the unions. Not too long ago, a few days apart, Ryanair and Impact took out full page adverts in (at least) the Irish Times. Ryanair’s was on the Lisbon II referendum, and Impact’s was on the cuts that are coming down the line.

I read the Ryanair one, I didn’t read the Impact one. And the reason: Ryanair’s was short and simple: three points (one of which used low-level humour: one reason for voting ‘yes’ would be that it would piss off Joe Higgins and Sinn Fein). Impact’s was a text-heavy splurge. I do recall that it listed ten – ten! Feck sake, there aren’t that many ground in the equality legislation and who can name all of them without looking them up – reasons why cuts would be a bad idea.

Too much of the unions’ campaigns is open to critique of being just another special pleading, on a par with the arts sector or farmers, or school management bodies. That there is a justice issue for people not in the public sector unions is not clearly made. What sets Michael Taft’s effective opining apart is that he has made the the fact that the Lenihan Plan is doomed to fail at its own objective the key point.

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WorldbyStorm - October 22, 2009

Got to say that’s a very important point re people not in the public sector. If the unions aren’t advocating universalism then there’s a central problem. It’s really just about a joined up left approach, not a piecemeal one.

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Damian O'Broin - October 25, 2009

Have to disagree with you there Tomboktu re the Impact / Ryanair ads. That was an very good Impact ad, precisely because it went into detail.

There’s a long history (influenced originally by the likes of David Ogilvy in commercial advertising) of using such long-copy ads as part of advocacy campaigning.

Three snappy soundbites will not convince a waverer that there shouldn’t be cutbacks – you need reasoned argument to that. You wouldn’t want Michael Taft to start writing 3 line blog posts, would you? Same principle applies with that Impact ad – it was attempting to give people the arguments that would a) convince them and b) help them convince others. Sure not everybody read it, but those that did will have invested themselves in the issues and, hopefully, come away persuaded.

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Tomboktu - October 27, 2009

Comparing a newspaper advertisement with a Michael Taft post is not comparing like with like, in an important way. People who read Michael Taft have gone looking for it, but an advertisement in a newspaper has been put in your way. A text-heavy advertisement needs to convince you it’s worth reading if it is to be effective.

However, if Impact (and, indeed, Congress – I got Mr Begg’s envelope and stickers through the letter box this morning) was basing its approach on methods that are known to be effective, I will defer to that wisdom and classify myself as atypical and not in their target group.

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10. Proposition Joe - October 25, 2009

The sick days story raised a sort of grim laugh in me. Seems we’re actually conforming to other civil service/public sector norms in other countries with the amount going sick.

@WbS

I’m confused as to why you’re appealing to the rates of sick leave among public servants in other countries. Is there a virus stalking the globe that somehow selects only public servants among its victims?

Surely comparing to the economy-wide averages in each individual country is the only approach that makes any sense?

I’d understand if the highest rates of sick leave happened to afflict those public servants with the most exposure to potential infections (nurses, teachers and the likes). Turns out those front-liners are put in the ha’penny place by the back-office clerical workers.

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WorldbyStorm - October 25, 2009

I’d have thought they provided a reasonable point of comparison (I note the cry de jour at the moment is for us to benchmark ourselves against other int’l public sectors). And to be honest the rates of sick leave don’t strike me in the main as wildly off the scale. Do they to you?

Incidentally, what is the definition of frontline in a context where people are dealing directly with people, say in the Dept. of Agriculture for example, or Revenue who are at the front line? Large groups of people, and there’s no gainsaying that the PS has large groups of people employed, are going to provide fertile grounds for diseases.

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Proposition Joe - October 25, 2009

Sure, that would be plausible if it was reflected in the data. But as it turns out the worst blackspot in the entire civil service is the Property Registration Agency, small and back-officey as opposed to large and customer-facing.

Similar anomalies show up in sick leave data for the HSE. Nurses tend to be out sick a lot less than hospital porters, despite being exposed to the same or even worse infection risks and certainly more job-related stresses. Take out the pregnancy-related sickies for nurses (disproportionately female and of child-baring age) and the contrast would be even more stark. Also small hospitals tend to have worse absenteeism rates than large hospitals, which sortta undermines the large-groups-of-people argument.

Drilling into the data, its very hard to avoid the conclusion that the sick leave issue is more down to the culture in certain areas & grades rather than genuine health issues.

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WorldbyStorm - October 25, 2009

Well some obvious responses come to mind here. A hospital porter does a rather different job to a nurse and is presumably more liable to muscular/skeletal injuries. So that’s hardly a massive surprise.

As smiffy notes, what precisely are the figures for the private sector (and even then that’s not absolutely useful given the provision of sick leave in the private sector is patchy, I know of companies where sick days were taken out of annual leave – as good a way to demoralise a staff as one could imagine – needless to say that only applied to the grunts and lower management, not higher management who had paid sick leave etc)?

You may not believe this but I genuinely respect your opinion but every once in a while you seem a little over exercised by the public sector. I’ve no brief for those who bilk the system but if this certified and as someone who had to get their first sick cert in fifteen years in the last few months and take a number of uncertified sick days with the same illness across a number of weeks perhaps I’m a little more sympathetic to people actually being ill.

There are other issues. Younger people (a general term) seem more prone to infections and illnesses than those in early middle age. Those in later middle age often seem more prone than those in early middle age and so on. It’s a vast area… we need data.

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11. smiffy - October 25, 2009

Are there any independent comparable figures for the private sector? Surely they are necessary for any kind of informed discussion on the subject of sick leave.

“But as it turns out the worst blackspot in the entire civil service is the Property Registration Agency, small and back-officey as opposed to large and customer-facing.”

Again, more information is required. The Property Registration Agency is tiny, relative of most Government Departments. However, for that very reason, one person on long-term sick leave could skew the average quite considerably, in a way they couldn’t in, say, the Department of Agriculture.

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12. Crocodile - October 25, 2009

The breakdown of figures on absenteeism is interesting and not surprising. You’re very much more likely to stay at home if you’re a young woman or if you are employed at a low grade. These two descriptions encompass many of the people who will face pay cuts in the budget.
Incidentally, I’ve said it before, but there’s a large element of misogyny about anti public-service sentiment.The unspoken message behind much of the commentary is: ‘Why are we paying these women so much to work part time, have babies and throw sickies? We wouldn’t stand for that in Thrusting Entrepreneur Enterprises Inc.’ George Lee broke his silence recently and to suggest what?: a reduction of Ps maternity leave.

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2453205

is an interesting research paper showing that single women are actually the group most likely to take sick leave, followed, in order, by married women, married men and single men. This suggests that women’s childcare responsibilities are not the cause of the discrepancy.

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EWI - December 4, 2009

We wouldn’t stand for that in Thrusting Entrepreneur Enterprises Inc.’

Like it, and might steal it at some point in the future…

George Lee broke his silence recently and to suggest what?: a reduction of Ps maternity leave.

No surprise there.

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13. brownbreadandbluebananas - October 31, 2009

Perspective from from the inside looking out http://brownbreadandbluebananas.wordpress.com/

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14. David Beggs and the 70% solution… « The Cedar Lounge Revolution - December 3, 2009

[…] can read more again from a post I did here which refs an IBEC survey of 508 companies which again showed only 20% of companies had implemented […]

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